I Let AI Help Plan My Vacation... Here’s How It Went

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Matt: All righty, everybody. This is yet another edition of The Web News. And in this episode, I wanna talk about a recent trip that I took, and it was planned in part by AI. Now, before you start laughing and saying there was some sort of disaster that bef- that had befallen us, we intelligently used AI. We checked things out.

We double-checked. We did things in an abstract way to some extent. And, uh, I think I'll just kick things off with what happened. So me and my girlfriend recently, uh, flew over to the United Kingdom. We were over there for a convention, and then we also had, uh, two or three days for walking around and, you know, sort of sightseeing in both London and Birmingham.

And so because there was a convention involved and a schedule involved, we decided, okay, we kinda have to have not a super strict, but, like, a kinda super strict itinerary. We also don't know where everything is on the map because you wanna go see, or we wanted to go see all the sort of mainstay things in [00:01:00] London, go to Westminster, right?

You see Westminster Abbey, see Big Ben, London Bridge, Tower Bridge, St. Paul's Cathedral, London Eye, like etc., etc. And so it's like, how do you... how do we manage all of this? And so we used a combination of... Uh, this, this part's not AI, but we used a combination of Notion to track everything, and then we used ChatGPT as well as, uh, Google Gemini in order to sort of plan and deliver, I guess, the trip to us.

So I'll just break this down. So 'cause, uh, Mike and I are gonna have, like, a banter over this. He- hence, hence it's a Web News episode. But what we did before we left was we kinda said, "Okay, we have..." We would tell it, "We're landing on this day. We have this much time. This is what we wanna see. We have Uh, this much time on this day and this much time on another day, like, how do we split up the schedule?

Do we do all these landmarks on one day? Do we split them [00:02:00] up? And it gave us, like, a, an itinerary. Like, it was like, "Hey, you should try this. You should try that. You know, factor in lunch. Spend two hours here. Walk here." And it would tell you where to go. It would say, "You should get the train to here. You should tube to here.

You should walk to this place. You should go from here to here. You need to do this part first because there's shopping involved, and the stores are closed and that." So we w- we did that. And so I, you know, eventually sort of... We did a few different itineraries. What we did on top of that was we double-checked everything.

So we went onto a Google Map, and we looked, and we're like, "Yes, that is indeed, you know, five minutes from..." Like, London Bridge is very close to Tower Bridge, so, like, that's, you know, five to 10-minute walk or whatever it was. Okay, fair enough. And we confirmed many details of where to go and what, what to do and things.

But then we also brought in a very analog thing, which was we were talking to people who had been there. I talked to you, Mike. I talked to other people, and then I was actually at a party just, uh, two days before we flew out, and there was some people [00:03:00] that were from, literally from London that I, I had no idea that were there at this party.

And so they were telling us, like, exactly what bus routes to take and, like, what services to do. So, like, very specific, you know, nuanced things that only, like, a local would pick up on. And so we combined all this sort of, like, analog and manual checking, uh, with the AI to make a successful, a successful, like, itinerary.

Now, it was successful. We hit every single landmark we wanted to. We saw everything we wanted to. Uh, we walked to where we wanted to. We got a bus to where we wanted to. Everything worked out there. The only thing that messed up was we were gonna do sort of a shopping thing, and we tacked it on after we were there.

So my girlfriend's, like, a fan of Harry Potter, and there's that alley, uh, Diagon Alley, and we were gonna go and do the Diagon Alley. So there's apparently... And I'm not a Harry Potter person, so just- I might get some of this wrong, but apparently [00:04:00] there's like a real Diagon Alley where they filmed it, and then there's like a, there's like another Diagon Alley that they made after the movie, kind of like a set, and you get to see like the actual wand shops and things that are in the movie.

Whereas like the real Diagon Alley has like real shops, you know, like whatever, like, I don't know, Greggs is there or, or like whatever. I don't know if Greggs is actually there, but there's just like real shops there. So we were gonna go to the real shops, we were gonna get some souvenirs and that, and we realized that we had spent too much time, uh, in the Tower Bridge.

So we're like, "Okay, like let's look," and the, the shops are closed. So my girlfriend primarily uses Gemini. She does not pay for it, and she uses it just by, you know, calling upon Google on her phone. And so she s- explains the situation and says, "We wanna like do a bit of shopping. We're looking for some souvenirs, we're looking for gifts and, and whatnot, so, you know, take me someplace."

And so it tells you, "Oh..." It tells us, "Oh, go down here. There's like an old wharf that they've redone. There's like a mall. There's vendors. They're usually open for like another two hours. [00:05:00] There's vendors there." It's a five-minute walk, I think it was, and you can go in there. There's restaurants, there's vendors, there's things to buy.

We get there, and the building has like seven or eight units for regular retail shops. All but two are vacant, so they were worthless for us because unfortunately the two shops there were not really souvenir shops. They weren't really in our wheelhouse. And then th- the building had been split, so when we went on the map, the other side was all restaurants, and they were all filled, and they were, you know, active and presumably successful.

But unfortunately we weren't there for food. And then there were vendors there, but all of them were food. They were pop-up shops for like kebabs or like, you know, banana dessert or whatever. And so then we were like, "Hey, like we actually wanna shop someplace, like, you know, what the heck?" And so it started then directing us, "Oh, if you're going to Buckingham Palace later, like go here, go there, go here."

And so the point being is that when we were trying to use it on the fly, it didn't exactly lead us completely astray, but [00:06:00] it... Unless there's nothing listed online, which is possible, it definitely led us astray in that, okay, we walked over here, we looked around, this isn't what we really wanted, and like are we really gonna buy like food to bring back as souvenirs, right?

It doesn't really work. And so that was kind of our, our trip. And so Mike, like we can kind of unpack that. I know I've been kinda just like gabbing on. But i- it was, um, the fir- first... It was my, it was my first trip overseas, my girlfriend's as well, but also it was the first time I'd used AI to plan potentially anything other than I guess some tech stuff at work or what have you.

It was the first time we'd ever used it to plan a trip certainly.

Mikhail: I, I remember, this was pre-AI, uh, my wife and I kind of did our, like, late honeymoon in Japan, 90... Like a, a, a good chunk of that was my wife, like, planning meticulously complicated itinerary

Matt: Угу

Mikhail: now she's kinda like a [00:07:00] little bit anti-AI right now, so I don't think she would do it. But I'm thinking of how much time that could have saved her of like finding the right hotel, of like figuring out where, like all the different places you can go versus you, you want to go, right?

Like the pro- the biggest issue is like you wanna go to a lot of places, but what's actually feasible is really complicated. What's open? What's actually-- Like what, what can you purchase? Some tickets are sold out in, uh, like well in advance. Some aren't. Some, some places you wanna go are a little bit too far.

Like just so many variables to every decision in an itinerary AI should be able to, and I know you had mixed experience, I get that, but I'm wondering if you use something like a, the latest model, Astra and Codex, let's say, GPT 6 Astra and Codex, and you sat down and had it go through and generate you like a full-on itinerary, how good that could be

Matt: Угу

Mikhail: of the fact that it can do a lot more reasoning [00:08:00] and it could like, could potentially even go to...

It could potentially even call the, the, the service, like the places, and place, you know, uh, ask questions, like specific questions in whatever native language it needs to be in. So I think using AI in different workflows in travel opens a lot up for you, not just in itineraries, but itineraries being one of the primary things. in general, just understanding the city. Like it, it could give you a perfect tour route of like, "Hey," you give it your interests, "I like war museums. like, you know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a big fan of... I'm, I'm-- This is the type of food I like," and have it generate you the right places to visit. I don't know.

There's just... It definitely simplifies a lot of things. The thing that kind of sucks is that all the sources for that information before, the good sources I should say, a lot of them were listicles and crappy listicles and stuff like that, but [00:09:00] the good sources were like people that actually went to these places and had those experiences and wrote about them. And those types of experiences are no longer really valuable to, if you're, if you're like diving into AI too much. AI is training on them and has trained on them, but moving forward, how many people are actually gonna write about that? now it's like you're just trusting older versions or you're trusting new things to come up that are gonna be kind of targeted at embedding themselves in AI, uh, overviews AI suggestions.

So that system's gonna get played. So I-- It's that yin-yang situation with AI of like super useful, on the other hand, what is this gonna lead to? It, is the curated, curated experience going to go down in value? Or maybe AI will somehow make it so that you're still able to, [00:10:00] you know, get your opinions out there, maybe even profit from it.

I don't know. It hasn't been figured out right now. But like There's a lot that can be done with it. I, I just worry about the implications

Matt: It's funny you mention it though, because, um, I don't know... So there's multiple moving parts here. So first of all, like, I'm rather versed in prompting. My preferred platform is ChatGPT, and I am paying for it. So I, you know, had a paid model, not Astra at the time, just shortly before Astra, so 5.6 or whatever it was.

Uh,

had

Mikhail: good

Matt: had it very good, had it working for me. I used a combination of both voice mode as well as texting back and forth with it 'cause I do like the, what they used to call advanced voice mode. I think they may have renamed it. But regardless, like the natural conversation mode as well, uh, I used to like using that.

I like using that. Um, and then also we-- So, like, I'm more versed in prompting than my girlfriend. She is primarily not typing to it. She's just talking to it, [00:11:00] and she's talking to the free version of Gemini, which is also fine, but your, what you say in speech is still a prompt. And so her prompts, like, were getting better as, as it went along, but her prompts are not as, like, sort of versed as mine.

Like, I, you know, I prompt way more than her, uh, 'cause, like, she doesn't prompt at all for work or anything like that. So that, that's just, um, one moving part. The second thing, though, it's actually a good, a good thing you mention, is we actually discovered a lot of things that the AI did not tell us about through people that had actually been to these locations because the algorithms for, like, our Instagram reels and our TikToks would come out and say, "These are the top five places to visit in London," or, "This is the top five, uh, views of the Tower Bridge," or, "This is the top five restaurants when you're in the Core," or, "These are the top three things to avoid."

And so they're kinda listicles, but they're actual videos, right? They're people that are there. They're showing it. And so, like, there's an example of one, uh, area where there's sort of like a, an [00:12:00] old dock or an old wharf or something right beside the Tower Bridge, and it's only open for a certain amount of hours a day.

There's, like, a gate that's there, and you can go through it, and you kinda walk down this dilapidated staircase, and you're on the beach, like, on the river there, and you're, like, looking right... Like, you're right at the Tower Bridge. And it's, like, a really good view, and there's not many tourists there, and there's, like, a cool other, like, wharf or dock or whatever.

I'm not very versed in marine stuff. But, um- It, like it was, it w- and, and it was like something that, like, we found, uh, through TikTok, and then we, in that case, we just looked for it 'cause, like, we were aware of it. We're like, "Okay, the AI got us to Tower Bridge. Now let's, like, kind of like explore." 'Cause we didn't want an itinerary where it was like every two seconds, like you have to spend 10 minutes at this door, and then five minutes at this door, and then three minutes at this restaurant, and then two minutes getting a coffee.

If the line's too long, you li- you skip the coffee, you run over to the bus. It's like whoa. Like, you know, hold the phone here. So, like we didn't have that thankfully. But, um, [00:13:00] so th- what's interesting is, like, it's almost like the algorithms, because we started looking for travel stuff, it's like our reels and our TikToks are getting sort of infiltrated, if you will, by this travel stuff specific to the UK, specific for things to do in London 'cause we were looking up a lot of London stuff.

Because those algorithms did that, they fed us information from real people that went to these real places that discovered these cool things, and then we were able to, like, add that to the itinerary. Now part, part of that is, is of course because the itinerary I made was like, "Hey, we wanna go to the Tower Bridge."

I didn't say, "Hey, I wanna go to Tower Bridge, go inside, check out the gift shop. Is there a gift shop?" You know, I didn't ask all those questions. So some of those other things that you mentioned where it's like the people's traffic, like the people who have actually been there, maybe their traffic would be stolen if I had a more specific itinerary.

But the travel TikToks, the travel shorts, the travel videos that I seen were, like, quite popular. Thousands of likes, lots of comments, y- you know, of course, depending on the channel, but [00:14:00] well-produced, you know, well-filmed, well, well-edited and things. So I think that, like, maybe there's, like, a bit of hope there where b- where people are gonna go to these short form video platforms.

Because my thought there is, is like that's the fun part. Like, once we figure out how to get to Tower Bridge and we figure out, okay, we got, you know, two, three hours here or something, you know, safely- Like, o-once, once we figure that out, like, now we can shop, quote-unquote, shop around on TikTok and things to find cool things to do, and I don't want ChatGPT to just tell me, "There's a cool view on the right side of the bridge."

I would prefer for a video to say, "Check out this..." Like, you know, it's kinda presented to me, but it's the fun part. It's like entertainment a b- little bit, and you're like, "Okay, now that we have, like, now that we know that we're going on this trip and we paid for the tickets and everything, let's do the fun part now," which is, like, using algorithms, which is kinda what we do now.

Um, or we could, you know, Google search if we want specifically, but, like, that is, I think, where the people come in. Because, like, travel content is a bit [00:15:00] fun. You know what I mean? Like, it's fun to look and be like... 'Cause there's been a couple places where they're like, "This is the best restaurant ever," and I look and I'm like, "Ah, I don't really wanna eat that."

So i- and, like, visually, right? But if ChatGPT was like, "This is the best restaurant," it's like, "Oh, I guess I'm going to that restaurant," you know? 'Cause it's, it's just kinda telling me over, like, text or, or over speech. So maybe there's, like, a bit of hope there because there is an entertainment angle, and there's, like, the algorithm feeding it to you angle

Mikhail: I think you're, I think you're right. I think as long as you have a combination of things, right? Like, you're, you're get- you're gaining knowledge from the algorithms, from your own research, from AI. I think as long as you c- as long as we continue down that route and not rely on one or the other, gonna get... It's gonna continue to be a little bit mixed, and that, that's good. We'll get that, that kind of content. Um, other thing I just remembered, uh, not specifically related to, like, touristy travel, but, like, travel in general. One issue that people have that travel a lot, uh, is [00:16:00] you'll have, like, your flight canceled, you'll have delays. a lot of different airlines, a lot of different countries have different policies for these things, and the complicated part always for me was figuring out what I'm entitled for, 'cause they'll try to give you the minimum amount of whatever to kind

Matt: Like a little voucher

Mikhail: you. Exactly, like a $10 voucher. But if you're informed, you can a lot of times actually get a lot more.

Like, for example, I was flying back, uh, from London one time, ironically, and I, my flight got delayed. And because, because my flight got delayed by such a long time, I think it was like 12 hours, uh, I was actually entitled to a pretty significant amount of compensation due to the E- E- like, EU laws. Like, it was like an $800, uh, compensation, uh,

Matt: Dang

Mikhail: Yeah. But I didn't know about that. Um, someone had to tell me that randomly, and I got lucky. They didn't-- They weren't the ones to tell me that I'm entitled to this stuff, obviously. I was told that by someone during that time. Now, I [00:17:00] had AI at that time, this was like, again, probably 2022, 2023, so like really early AI days. Um, if I had good AI at that time, and what you should do now is whenever you have a delay, punch in all the details, or just give it your ticket and tell, a- and tell it to look it up itself. Like, it can look up the delays itself, and ask it if you're entit- entitled to anything. I think these little, like, legal hacks that AI enables of being able to read and parse through the terms of service and all this documentation that was created for the specific purpose for, of being terse and difficult to read to make it harder for people to figure out what they're entitled for. AI is very, very good at dumbing that down com- like, figuring that out and giving you a better, uh, direction and, and like, you know, translating it into people language. So-

Matt: People language, but yeah, you're right. Uh, yeah

Mikhail: yeah, like if you, if you ever have doubts of a terms of service or again, like a cancellation policy or whatever, a lot of that happens in, in travel.

[00:18:00] Definitely throw that at AI. That's a, that's a very, very good use case of AI because it will give you a chance to fight these companies that are trying to save as much money as possible, obviously. But you should too. So that's one thing, and I, and I... The reason I bring that up, because I, I, I heard someone mention this, like that they've u- they used it for that specific use case, and it actually got them a pretty good refund on a, on a specific flight that got delayed.

So proof in the pudding there. Um, something that has less proof that I think I would, I might do in the future is, uh, more touristy related. So when you're out traveling a new place, you wanna experience some new things. But usually wanna, you usually like tend to lean towards comfort zone. Like as, as a human being, you tend to lean towards, okay, so if you're, you know, going to and you've never eaten raw fish, you're probably gonna try to avoid that unless you're like, you know, more touristy and [00:19:00] like, the, that was a goal of yours to eat raw fish in Japan. You're probably gonna avoid that.

But what you should, what you should do is like you should embrace the comfort zone 'cause it's your vacation. You should like what you're doing, and you should know that you're gonna like something. So I think you should embrace the comfort zone. But you should also break out of it and be willing to, know, have a bad experience once in a while. Because if you're always in the comfort zone, you're just never gonna experience the, you know, what, what a country usually has to offer 'cause cultures are very different. Usually, the comfort zone's not gonna overlap with o- other, other cultures. What you can do with AI is, again, give it your comfort zone, tell it your preferences, and then be like, me four things in my comfort zone, one thing outside of my comfort zone that you think could overlap with it." Having some more like, you know, thinking outside the box ways of figuring out events and activities to do in a new culture or in a new country, AIs should be pretty, pretty good at that. Uh, this is, this is why I say like I don't have exact like evidence of this. This is something [00:20:00] that I've thought of recently that I want to do when I travel next time. But it's, it's a more complicated thing to do with just pure search because like how do you, how do you detect your comfort zone? Like how do you, how do you put that into a search query? Like it, it would be very difficult because everyone's so different.

Matt: Well, I, I think it, I think ... Well, first of all, our AIs are starting to, like, get a memory about us, so there's, like, a little bit of the personable. So that would, that's part of it. But the thing is, is, like, uh, my girlfriend and I are planning on going back again next year, um, because we wanna go to the convention again.

And, um I mean, it knows our old itinerary. We could bring that up and say, "This is what we did. We really liked this, this, this. We didn't like this, this, this," or whatever. We, we actually ended up liking everything, so we But

Mikhail: That's

Matt: get, you, get my meaning. It's like, "Hey, I like this, I like this, I like this, I like this."

Take, like you said, take me out of my comfort zone or, like, whatever. For us, uh, we were enough out of the comfort zone. Like,

Mikhail: It was your first time out

Matt: never flown overseas, so it's like, okay, I'm already, like, [00:21:00] immediately out of my comfort zone. Like, you had to explain to me modern airports 'cause I'd, like... I used to, like, everything back in my day was, like, literally back in my day, an old man, like, it was all paper.

So I was like, "I don't know." You're like, "Scan your passport." I was like, "Does the person do that?" You're like, "There's no people involved." I was like, "What?"

Like, I don't know

Mikhail: There aren't. Yep

Matt: So like, yeah, like it was a whole, whole new experience already. But like also now I have context for what's there, and so I know like I, you know, I, I'll remember where some of the stores are or where this or where that is, and so I can be like, "Oh, I wanna check this out," or, "I was curious about this but was kind of nervous about it.

There's an out- outside our comfort zone thing. I could talk to the AI about that place or something like that." It's a good idea. Like, there's definitely gonna be some like smart ways to get AI to like give you, you know, give you the plans or talk to you about the, the specifics about what you're d- what you're, uh, planning on doing or going to be doing or what have you.

Espec- like, uh, you, you said raw fish though. Like, I wouldn't be trying raw fish for the first time, like, 'cause I know exactly what's gonna happen. I'm gonna get sick, and then it's just a [00:22:00] wash. Like, I'm just gonna be sick for like three days and it's gonna be like, "Well, all right." Like

Mikhail: Maybe that's too far outside your comfort zone. But like, it, it was just like something in Japan

Matt: Yeah, yeah.

Mikhail: Like, yeah.

Matt: I just don't go, I never go cuisine wide, if that makes sense. Like, I don't experiment. Like, I'll try the spicy option. Like, that's the, that's the... You know what I mean? But I don't wanna be like, "Yeah, yeah, like this is a great like local delicacy," and it's just like, "Oh, fuck." Like, am I actually like allergic to this then?

Or like, you know, or it doesn't settle well and then

Mikhail: Mm-hmm.

Matt: Yeah. But

Mikhail: I- The only other thing I can think of is, like, trying to save you some money, um,

Matt: Oh, for sure

Mikhail: buying tickets, like buying plane tickets or something like that, because plane tickets are such a shit show. Like, this Tuesday of this month they're cheaper because X, Y, Z. Like, and it's just... Or like, you know, like figuring, figuring out what dates to fly to get the best price. There's whole apps, like SaaS businesses around that that are constantly evolving and, like, trying to keep up with it. [00:23:00] You can probably throw that a- at AI and be like, "Hey, at historical data. Create a schedule, create a scheduled task to look at it every day." Like, you could probably figure out a way to benefit from your development skills and your AI skills to create this little workflow for getting the best prices. My only hesitation with that is, like, as soon as you figure it out and if it's made easily figureoutable, the companies will start screwing around. Anyway, it's...

Matt: Oh, well,

it,

Mikhail: your mileage may vary. Just, uh,

keep

Matt: some, stuff, there's some stuff though that like it, it, it's just, it's just procedure though. Like for example, we booked a train and it said like you can book it at the physical booth or you can book it online and it's cheaper. That would be something that they wouldn't necessarily screw around with you.

And so it's like, okay, and it says like, "Hey, you have to book it out an hour before or else the, the paper rates are the same as the online rates." It's like, oh, okay, so like when we sit down for lunch We'll book it

Mikhail: that it would tell you most likely, right? Like beforehand, as long as you're-- it's part of your itinerary [00:24:00] or something. It'd be like, "Hey, make sure to book this for lunch." As long as you give it the prompt of, "Hey, make this as cost-effective as possible," kind of thing.

Matt: Yeah, yeah

Mikhail: just try to, try to get as much out of it as you can.

Um, be creative. I don't have an exact workflow for you for that right now. Uh, once I start traveling more, like in the, in the future after, you know, my daughter grows up a little bit more, I'll probably start using it more. Maybe we'll have another episode talking about new AI workflows for travel. But plenty, plenty of opportunities to use AI in travel, in my opinion, and to benefit you and, um, yeah, be, have, have a...

I, I, I don't wanna say like a balance of like, you know, AI evil or not evil. This is more like, "Hey, just try to, try to get something out of it while you still can," kind of thing.

Matt: Well, I, I, I would say like the, the big thing with this stuff is to prompt repeatedly. Like so for example, um, I don't really know transit. Like I [00:25:00] don't... I live in a s- I live in a smaller town so like we don't really have transit here so you gotta drive more or less. And um, my girlfriend knows transit, lives in the city so I let her handle all the transit and she planned a lot of the transit using Google Maps as well as Gemini and, and, and all these other things.

And there was like a point in which we told it, "Hey, we wanna..." We were gonna push back our time so we wanted to go for dinner, dinner somewhere else so we said, "You know what? Let's push back our train to Birmingham." And then it was giving us these like unbelievable rates. It was like, "Oh, it's 200 pound a person."

It's like what? Like 200 pounds? It was like eight pound a person, like what happened? And so then we had to like kinda like prompt, prompt, prompt, prompt, prompt for it to be like, "Well yeah, there is a commuter train." It's like what? Like that's, you know, it's one example of I don't know if you wanna call that a hallucination or like a, a- an issue or something where we had checked prior, right?

It's a kinda like we did an a- I, I'll call it an analog check or a manual check before and then we kinda had to like keep prompting the AI to get there again. However, the... but [00:26:00] my point is, is what you're saying is like, you know, y- become creative with your prompts which I agree with and I think that you're gonna naturally come up with some creative prompts by continually prompting.

Like for us it was like we kept pushing it toward this specific objective but we could absolutely... Like if we kept prompting and prompting and prompting we could like really get that itinerary down, right? Like really figure out what to do here. Tell it like, "I just wanna see the outside of this." You know?

"Oh, you can take a picture from the bus so don't get off the bus." So you save 20 minutes waiting for the next bus. Just take pictures from the bus and then go here and then go there and then drop over here and run over here and do, and, and do that thing. So, um, it definitely a good travel companion and I like the idea like, like you said of creative, of creative prompts because like I think that is...

Especially when you're like, when you're like out on a trip like you kinda wanna push your, like you said, your comfort zone or you wanna like go and do things that you wouldn't normally do or y- y- you wanna enjoy yourself and you wanna like, "You know what? I, I, I... You know what? I, I won't get eight hours of sleep tonight.

I'll get five 'cause I wanna do more [00:27:00] than I normally would," right? Even if it's in comfort zone or outside. And so like I think, I think, uh, I, I think that AI's a good travel companion But just like human advice, it's not perfect

Mikhail: That's right

Matt: Yeah. I'd also like to say too, and like I've already told you this, this, this, I'll, I'll end this with a funny story. I absolutely ate it on the Tube. Uh, in Canada here, we have slow gas-powered trains, like diesel and stuff. Yes, some of them are electric, I get it, but at least in my area, they're slow diesel trains, and so they need to accelerate.

Uh, they don't mess around there. And uh, we got our... Like, we had four luggage, so two each. Rush onto the Tube, it's like 6:00 or 7:00 in the morning, so all these, like, commuters are on there. It's really quiet. Everyone's kind of buried in their phone, headphones, and everything. We all-- We get on there, it's like doors are closing, and it, it doesn't need to accelerate.

It accelerates instantly. Uh, wasn't ready for that, wasn't hanging on to anything. So I [00:28:00] start, like, tilting, and I'm like... To my girlfriend, it was like, it all happened in an instant though, but I was like, "This ain't good." She turns around, she's like, "What?" And I'm already, like, absolutely falling into stuff, smashed into the luggage, bumped into her, so she's, like, half falling.

Luggage went, like, down the aisle, and like, smashed into some guy's legs. Oh, yeah. Like total... So the, a nice little quiet commuter train, big old Canadian guy

Mikhail: Yeah,

Matt: gets on board and

Mikhail: though

Matt: just disasters it. Um, but learned my lesson. The trains there do not mess around.

Mikhail: No, fairly fast.

Matt: They're we were, in fact, we were on a train later on in the trip, and, like, these people, like locals were there, and they're like, "Why do they keep talking about high-speed rail?

Like, like this, this railway is, like, pretty quick." And I was like, "Yeah, I would say, like, I can't even really see the countryside. Like, I would say if this isn't high-speed rail, what is this?" So so I'm used to just slow, [00:29:00] slow rail. But anyway, if you were on that commuter train and you just so happen to be listening to this, I hope you enjoyed the show, and I apologize if my luggage hit your legs.

But anyway, um, that's the web news for this week. What do you use your AI for when it comes to traveling, or do you? Do you, do you wanna, like, use it for your, for your next trip, or what's ... You know, let us know what you think about AI for travel. But that's it. That's the web news. We're signing off

Mikhail: Goodbye