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Fixing Vibe Coded Apps | w/ Nathaniel Rogers

Recorded:
July 15, 2025
Released:
September 18, 2025
Episode Number:
405

In this episode, Matt sits down with developer and solutions architect Nathaniel Rogers to discuss the challenges of working with non-tech-savvy founders, the differences between startup, product-based, service-based, and app-based business models, and how to guide entrepreneurs through both technical and business hurdles. Nathaniel shares his experiences helping clients with everything from basic tools like Calendly to full-scale applications, and dives deep into the fascinating trend of vibe coding—where non-technical people build scrappy solutions that eventually need professional polish. Together they explore what vibe coding means for the industry’s future and how developers can bridge the gap between ideas and reliable execution.

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Who’s in This Episode?

Show Notes

Interview Questions

  • You reached out shortly after the feature phone episode with Tom Barrasso where we were speaking about Cloud Phone
    • Can you let us know what you do you for a living? What kind of development & tech are you involved in?
  • Tech-savvy folks working with people that are not so tech-savvy is a tale as old as time, as not everyone can specialize in the tech that powers their businesses and everyday lives.
    • How do you deal with non tech-savvy clients/customers? Especially if they’re early in their business (and therefore typically need a lot of things set up).
      • Do you explain how the tech works for them at all? If so, how deep do you go?
  • In our conversations you mentioned that there’s differences between startup, product based, service based, and app based business models.
    • Can you briefly describe the difference between these models?
    • How do you help new entrepreneurs/startups through their technical journey at this stage?
    • Do you try and help them business-wise as well (as newbies may be in trouble technically and on the business side of things)?
  • Lately we’ve been discussing your dealings with a customer that had vibe coded themselves through a fair bit of their technical needs - this individual is not in the coding/tech field either
    • Can you describe this situation in detail and explain what you think it means for the future of the industry?

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